{"id":2598,"date":"2020-05-10T13:08:59","date_gmt":"2020-05-10T18:08:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/?p=2598"},"modified":"2020-05-10T13:13:13","modified_gmt":"2020-05-10T18:13:13","slug":"thorens-on-78rpm-and-diy-led-speed-control","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/?p=2598","title":{"rendered":"Thorens on 78rpm and DIY LED Speed control"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>We made our Thorens TD 125 MK II spin on 78rpm, but couldn&#8217;t measure the revolutions correctly. But there&#8217;s a simple DIY solution<\/em>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p>Two days ago, we finally had all the parts to get our Thorens TD 125 MK II upgraded. The old electronics board started to lose it\u2019s tight grip on the speed. Though a good (and careful) cleaning of the sliders and buttons helped to regain speed control, we knew it was time to think about replacing the electronics. Not only because of the slider and button issues, but because the oscillator regulating the speed of the platter is based on a \u201cWien Bridge\u201d and uses a tiny incandescent light bulb for amplitude stabilization. And that bulb already has a few years of service on it\u2019s belt and could fail at any time. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But there was an additional perk that made the decision easy: The new electronics board would replace the 16 rpm selection with an 78 rpm speed. We could finally listen to our archived 78rpms and to our lathe cuts directly on the main turntable in the listening room.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard-500x375.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard-285x214.jpg 285w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard-600x450.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Rudy prepared the working area and carefully soldered the old connections from the original electronics board. The new board is a new drop-in replacement and it took us just half an hour to get everything back into working order.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2607\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard1.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard1-500x375.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard1-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard1-285x214.jpg 285w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/thorensboard1-600x450.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Rudy also replaced the tone arm with a new(er) SME model, adjusted all the angles, settings and distances and we were ready to try our new 78rpm capable Thorens TD 125 MK II.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But there was a slight problem: How to measure and adjust the 78rpm setting? The Thorens has an integrated strobe speed window, but that of course only reflects the genuine speeds. There is no 78rpm strobe ring. And with all lamps in the house based on LED we didn\u2019t have enough \u201cflicker\u201d to get a strobe disk illuminated correctly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Did I mentioned the various cell-phone apps for speed measuring? There\u2019s two types: Those who are supposed to place the phone in the center of the disk and those who are strobing the flash. We tried them both. The first type propelled the phone across the floor at 78rpm, the second type flickered the flash LED unreliably and was awkward to use.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But we are quick thinkers. Could a $3 SOC (System on Chip) like the <a href=\"https:\/\/gist.github.com\/carljdp\/e6a3f5a11edea63c2c14312b534f4e53\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">ESP8266<\/a> control an LED correctly to make it pulse in the correct frequency?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/60hzx.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2601\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/60hzx.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/60hzx-500x281.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/60hzx-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/60hzx-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/60hzx-600x338.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes \u2013 it worked. The digital oscilloscope confirmed 60Hz. But the LED didn\u2019t get any of those strobe disk rings to freeze. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But why?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Finally it dawned on me. Though our mains is at 60Hz, a full AC sine wave makes an (incandescent) light flicker twice \u2013 once the curve is all the way up, once it is all the way down. In other words: The lamp actually blinks at double speed. All I had to do was to double the speed in my tiny SOC program.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And that did the trick.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<pre class=\"wp-block-code\"><code>void setup() {\n  \/\/ put your setup code here, to run once:\n   pinMode(D5, OUTPUT)\n}\n\nvoid loop() {\n  int del = 4166;\n\n  digitalWrite(D5,HIGH);\n  delayMicroseconds(del);\n  digitalWrite(D5,LOW);\n  delayMicroseconds(del);\n}\n<\/code><\/pre>\n\n\n\n<p>I slapped a project box around the chip, connected a button and battery and voil\u00e0 \u2013 here\u2019s the new record speed strobe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/rekokut_speed.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2602\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/rekokut_speed.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/rekokut_speed-500x281.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/rekokut_speed-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/rekokut_speed-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.rollofone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/rekokut_speed-600x338.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>We adjusted and confirmed the correct speed and .. finally .. Glenn Miller\u2019 s Pennsylvania 6-5000 (of course on Rollofone 78rpm) sounded through the room.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The operation and all related activities were an outstanding success.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We made our Thorens TD 125 MK II spin on 78rpm, but couldn&#8217;t measure the revolutions correctly. 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